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Ruining Other People’s Fun At HuffPo; UPDATED

March 23, 2008 · 4 Comments

Look, why should I not point out the obvious to people when I’ve done MY homework? Why can’t HuffPo’s bloggers do theirs?

Consider this story:

Sean Hannity Confronted Over His Relationship With Neo Nazi Hal Turner

written by Jason Linkins:

OK, great story: Hannity was buddies with Turner, avowed Neo-Nazi. He denies it but beaucoup evidence exists. Hurrah.

One problem though and I hate to break in on all this lefty high-fiving but:

Turner most likely was never who he said he was.

Look in the comments posted under the story. Mine is about half the first page down:

kegbot1 See Profile I’m a Fan of kegbot1

Um Jason,
you might want to check this out:
http://tinyurl.com/35ytys
Turner was most likely working as an agent provocateur for the FBI. In which case, the ironic thing is that Hannity should have been proud to claim friendship with a undercover Nazi hunter. Or something like that.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 03/23/2008

Go ahead and read the link I posted. Its a story from the Southern Poverty Law Center about how Turner was most likely working for the FBI as an agent provocateur.

Notice how the following commentators on HuffPo seem oblivious to what I posted. Of course, its fun bashing Hannity.

Look, perhaps Sean KNEW Turner was really an FBI plant. In fact, since the US government intelligence agencies have a long history of infiltrating and working in concert with the media, it’s not out of the question that Turner and Hannity are/were both FBI/CIA/NSA operative buddies. When neo-Nazis write invective on Hannity’s site, he probably refers their URLs, etc. to his government handlers just like Hal did.

Of course, HuffPo’s posters are counting on Hannity being too stupid to be a government operative and just liking Hal for who Hal appeared to be. Which is a definite possibility.

Nevertheless, the obvious facts should be understood by all. Turner was a government plant who disappeared from public view after he was outed. Jason, are you listening?

Now can I have MY own blog at HuffPo?

UPDATE:

Just checked back and even NYC program directors are getting into the act bashing HuffPo for not doing their homework in other ways (does anyone do a rudimentary Google search any more before posting anything?):

PhilBoyceWABC See Profile I’m a Fan of PhilBoyceWABC

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“Earlier in the week, Sean Hannity denied, albeit in contradictory terms, ever having a relationship with neo Nazi/white supremacist Hal Turner. As I posted the night Hannity was confronted about Turner, the evidence conflicts with Hanniy”s claims. Now Turner has confirmed their friendship and their sympatico views in a blog post called, “About Sean Hannity and Me. . . . . Yes, we were friends and yes, Sean agreed with some of my views.”
Your source is the person you call a “neo-Nazi/white supremacist Hal Turner. Is this your journalistic standard to repeat the blog postings of people like this? Is your desire to smear Sean Hannity so great that you will take the word of such a person?
In the posting Newshounds quotes from their new friend and journalistic source Hal Turner when he writes the following:
“In 1993, My wife got pregnant and around a month later, Sean reported that he and his wife were expecting their first child. We got to talking about things expectant dads talk about and the relationship grew.”
THERE IS A HUGE PROBLEM …. in 1993 Sean Hannity was NOT in NY, he was broadcasting in Atlanta until late 1996 when he was hired by Fox news.
There is ANOTHER HUGE PROBLEM …Sean’s wife was not pregnant, and did NOT get pregnant till 5 years later in 1998, his first child was born in Nov. 1998, So it would have been impossible for Hal Turner and Sean Hannity to be talking about the “things expectant dads talk about in 1993″, and for the relationship to grow. Turner also claims that about this time Sean provided Turner with his private phone number at the Fox News Channel. This is also false, since the Fox News Channel did not exist until the fall of 1996, over 3 years later.

When Turner writes:
“My wife gave birth to our son in June 1994, Seans wife gave birth to their child about a month later”.
You now know it is a TOTAL and COMPLETE lie, does Newshounds plan to fix the inaccurate statements of their new “STAR REPORTER”??
You further quote your “New Reporter”
“Over the course of the next three or four years, Sean and I spoke regularly off the air about our kids, politics and news of the day. My on-air calls to his show remained regular and welcome.”
Clearly this would be impossible since Sean did not have children.
As program Director for WABC I can confirm that Hal did call into shows many years ago, starting with The Bob Grant show. I can also tell you that it was Sean Hannity himself who stopped allowing his calls through, almost a decade ago, because Sean did NOT like the tone and message of the calls. He has done this on many occasions and I applaud him for it. Turner claims that I ordered Sean to distance himself from Turner sometime in 2000. This is simply not true. I never ordered Sean to distance himself from Turner, because Sean did so on his own many years earlier.

Clearly Sean’s instincts to ban him were right over a decade ago based on your own reporting of what this person presently stands for. He should be applauded for standing on HIS PRINCIPLES. While the Sean Hannity Show prides itself on allowing all points of views to be heard, I have watched Sean ban extremists views many times.
The question is where are your standards? Why would Newshounds source and repeat the writings of a person you yourself describe as “neo-Nazi/white supremacist”? Is your desire to hurt Sean Hannity so great that you are willing to sink this low?
I have a word document going back years where your site (and those who make comments) have regularly and routinely called Mr. Hannity every name in the book. Are you really proud of this? And by the way, Who is funding your site?

Phill Boyce
Program Director WABC New York

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4 responses so far ↓

  • Becky // March 23, 2008 at 11:37 pm

    “does anyone do a rudimentary Google search any more before posting anything?”

    Nope.

    Now, why would you want to blog at HuffPo?

  • kegbot1 // March 24, 2008 at 7:18 am

    Hi Becky:

    Exposure? :)

    I tell myself it probably wouldn’t be worth handling all the flaming anyway.

  • Ellen of News Hounds // March 25, 2008 at 3:25 am

    Hi,
    I’m the person who broke the story to the Huffington Post. This is the first I’ve heard of anyone criticizing the Huffington Post over this but the primary source of the story is not Turner but an article in The Nation, from 2005. Also, One People’s Project, which I have recently been in contact with, as they were quoted in The Nation article. As I have written on many comment threads, the point about quoting Hal Turner is that he confirmed what had previously been written by a mainstream organization and which Hannity had denied.

    Google had nothing to do with it. And while SPLC may consider Turner an informant, last I checked he was also one of their top haters.

  • kegbot1 // March 25, 2008 at 7:36 am

    Ellen,

    2005? Then it’s old news. The new news is that Turner has completely disappeared off the radar ever since he was ‘outed’ as an FBI informant. The SPLC story is backed up by other sources. Turner is nowhere to be found now.

    It doesn’t change the association with Hannity but for the sake of accuracy it should be pointed out that Turner was probably a FBI plant and that Hannity, if anything, fell for a phony hater. For the sake of accuracy the whole story should be told now. It’s called journalism.

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